🎹 DIGITAL GRAND PIANOS|Review & Report 2020|Are They Good?

Roland GP609 digital grand piano

🎹 UPDATED REVIEW - March 1, 2020 - Digital Grand Pianos that look like small acoustic grand pianos range in price from under $2000 to over $15,000 from brands like Yamaha, Roland, Samick, and a few others. They come in many shapes and sizes and some of them are good and some are downright bad. You should never assume a digital grand piano is a good instrument just by the way it looks. A bad digital grand piano is referred to as a PSO (aka: piano shaped object) and just because it looks attractive on the outside does not mean it is good on the inside. You need to be very careful when you make a decision to purchase one of these digital pianos pianos and we will give you inside info on how to make the right choice within your budget.  

Yamaha AvantGrand N3X

*BEWARE:If a new digital GRAND piano you are seeing is on a Craigs List ad or linked to an Amazon ad, then that piano is likely low quality in a number of ways and I recommend you do not buy it. Many of these so called "good digital grand pianos," regardless of how good they look on the outside and regardless of what the piano maker/seller has to say about it (they always say glowing things), are possibly just PSO's (piano shaped objects) as I mentioned earlier with little similarity to what a real piano does or how it actually plays. So don't be fooled by "looks" or flowery statements made by the manufacturer or the salesperson trying to sell it...they just want their Amazon affiliate payment or commission. If the piano does not have a good key action, piano sound chip, pedaling system, and a good name known throughout the piano industry, then personally I would avoid it. You normally don't get "something for nothing" regardless of what that ad or seller might say. BE CAREFUL out there and contact me 1st before you buy!
 

Yamaha CVP-809GP Digital Grand

The features many people ask for in digital grand pianos are a good variety of higher quality instrument sounds including good acoustic pianos, strings, brass (a variety of horns), woodwinds, reeds, flutes, synthesizers, guitars, world instruments, and others. Some people also ask for a good helping of drum rhythm patterns, ensemble style chord backing tracks, easy play features, a bigger user interface screen, a mic input for singalong/karaoke, extensive recording & song playback options, an authentic acoustic piano feel, and a full sounding speaker system. Polyphony note memory/processing power can be anywhere from 64 notes to 256 or (unlimited) notes or more, and more polyphony can be important, especially if you are a more advanced player with a much higher skill level or are doing extensive recording or multiple sound layering. However for normal use in most families, 120 to 256 notes of polyphony should be sufficient. In addition to all this, it seems everyone wants the most attractive digital Baby Grand piano they can get with the realistic authenticity in cabinet design and function and they want it all for generally around $5000 or less, although there are people who can and are willing to spend more money to get what they want, but they are in the  minority of buyers.

The problem with wanting to get a good digital baby grand piano is that you will usually need to make some sacrifices to get what you want in the lower price range. Yamaha, Roland, & Kawai are all great digital piano manufacturers and do produce some exciting and impressive digital Grand Pianos in small & larger sizes, but they are generally not in the $5000 or less price range. In fact those models which include the newer Yamaha CLP665GP, CLP695GP, CVP809GP, AvantGrand N3X, Roland GP607, and the Roland 5' GP609 are all normally priced at well over $5000 and on up to approx $17,000...so they're not cheap. Casio also produces many popular digital pianos but does not produce one in a digital grand cabinet. So what does that leave you if you cannot get a Kawai, Roland, or Casio for less than $5000? It generally leaves you with either "no-name" cheaper quality digital pianos which are overall not very good in their ability to replicate a good piano playing experience, the new Yamaha CLP665GP mini grand for around $5500-$6000 discount price depending on the dealer (this one is quite nice), a Kurzweil for $2500 sounds cheap, plays cheaply like a toy, but it looks good (PSO). The Roland GP607 at $7000 (plus tax) look attractive in its small 3' deep cabinet and plays nicely but in my opinion is overpriced for what you get.

Yamaha CLP665GP

The no-name or poor quality digital piano brands in Baby Grand cabinets at around $5000 or less include Adagio, most Suzuki's, Artesia, Williams from Guitar Center, Viscount, Omega, Sejung (not available in most states), Cameron & Sons (private label), and a couple of others such as Kurzweil. Typically when you spend less money on a digital Baby Grand you get less quality. If you see them selling for around $1000-$2000 or so, they will likely be very poor in key action, piano sound, and pedaling response and those are the main features I recommend to people to look at 1st, and then the fun digital features should come after that. The lower priced digital pianos are typically measure anywhere from about 2'4" in depth (micro size hybrid cabinets) to a larger 4' deep size (mini baby grand size) which are normally more authentic in cabinet design features, construction, finish quality, lid, bench, legs, pedal assembly, etc. There are a couple of higher priced digital baby grands that measure 5' in depth but are much higher price...over $10,000. A full size real authentic acoustic baby grand cabinet is approximately 5' deep and they are considerably more money at over $15000, but digital grand pianos are generally smaller in size at 4' deep or less and they definitely cost less money. One of my favorite recognizable brand name digital mini grand pianos is by Yamaha and called the Clavinova CLP665GP at a 3'9" depth, but that one sells for $5499 at internet discount price so the good ones don't come cheap. You can read my detailed review of the Yamaha CLP665GP at the following link and learn more about it: Yamaha CLP665GP Review

There are some digital pianos brands I do not recommendunder $5000 (based on years of personal experience) and this is because they have noticeably poor piano tone, key response, key action, tonal dynamics, key velocity realism, and other digital features. Again, I refer to them simply as GPSO's..."Grand Piano Shaped Objects" and little more than that:) They don't play good, sound good, function well, or hold up good over time based on my experience with them. I have been around most of these brands and various models my entire music career and there are just certain ones that have not improved much and still are on my "not recommended" list. Those brands include Suzuki (most of them), Artesia, Adagio, Williams, Kurzweil and a small variety of "house or private label brands." A house brand is one that is sold by a piano or music store and they buy a pre-made digital piano from Chinese manufacturers and have their own name put on the piano so that they can have an "exclusive" name that no one else has. It makes marketing and promotional sense for the music store to do that (Guitar Center stores is an example of a music store company that does this), but it certainly does not mean it's a good piano and it tends to be confusing in trying to find out what these things really are and who actually makes them.

Cameron & Sons is one of those "house brands" as is Williams, Adagio, & Suzuki. I have seen Cameron & Sons occasionally on the internet (never played one yet because they are not a real piano company) but that brand does not say where the piano is manufactured (there is no Cameron & Sons factory) and the specs in the digital pianos highly suggest they are one of the inferior brands that are similar in nature to Suzuki which I advise everyone to stay away from. If you don't know where the piano is built, who builds it, or what is really in it, then the words and descriptions mean little or nothing... I have seen it all before.  Not all house or private label brands are bad (some are good because they have control over the quality or technology used and have it built by reputable manufacturers) but it is not common. Artesia, which in the US is generally sold by Costco, is an actual Chinese brand you made not have heard of before which builds their own digital pianos in China. I have actually played them and was definitely not impressed with the piano sound, tonal dynamics, key action movement and playability and these are the main ingredients that need to be good in a digital piano. I would definitely stay away from the "off-brands" including Artesia, Suzuki, etc. They all generally have noisy key actions, little or no dynamics in piano sound, and low quality, uneven velocity sensitivity. 

From time to time I do see some positive on-line consumer reviews on some of these brands or models that I do not recommend. But I look at these consumer reviews knowing that those people cannot possibly have ever played a real acoustic piano (either upright or grand) at any skill level at all.  If they had, they wouldn't be giving positive reviews of these low quality digital pianos (in my professional opinion). You just can't believe everything you hear or see...especially from uneducated consumers who think they have something good, when in fact they just don't know how bad it really is...especially as compared to a real piano or any of the name brand digital pianos.

As far as digital Baby Grand features go, it's great to have lots of exciting functions and they can be fun to use, and even the low quality baby grands may have some of them. But if you cannot get a quality piano as far as the piano sound & necessary elements like a good responsive key action go, then I don't believe it really matters what else is in the piano. In the lower quality pianos, even those extra functions are generally not very good much of the time.  The Artesia brand that is primarily sold by Costco is one I don't recommend. It's not a terrible piano, but for the same money or slightly higher you can do much, much better. Just because Costco has them does not mean they are necessarily good pianos. Artesia is really not a brand (as far as having their own manufacturing facility) and they are normally all Chinese designed and made, which is not necessarily a bad thing...it just depends on the parts they use. Suzuki is also not a brand in the traditional sense and they do not build their own pianos since they are pre-built in China by another company incorporating cheaper electronics and cheaper key actions in many (but not all) of their models. The Suzuki piano also brand has nothing to do with any most other Suzuki products made either including motorcycles, cars, violins, lessons, and other things connected with their name. I've done a number of reviews on Suzuki, Artesia, Williams (a Guitar Center brand) and Adagio pianos and have been very disappointed with most of them, especially with their key action, velocity response, tonal dynamics, and quality (as I mentioned earlier), and I have personally played them.

It is also important to know that just because a piano is completely or partially made in China does not mean it's bad as I mentioned, and I don't want people to think that. There are some very good piano manufacturing facilities in China now and even Yamaha & Kawai get a number of their pianos made there these days. Whether we like it or not, we all live in a world economy and China is a big part of it. As long as the piano is produced with good oversight, good construction, professional design, and reliable technology with up to date musical features, that's what really counts and the brand name is not the always the issue, but you can certainly count on a real piano company brand name to offer a lot more piano playing authenticity.

Roland GP607

When it comes to digital pianos, generally speaking, you can get more piano realism and features for the money ($5000 or less) if you do not get a Baby Grand cabinet and instead get a regular vertical upright style furniture cabinet. You do pay a premium for a digital Baby Grand furniture style cabinet but the look and sound of those instruments are certainly impressive and elegant and if you plan to own it for a long time and you have the "disposable income," go for it and enjoy...I would recommend it. Those cabinets come in sizes from about 2'4" deep up to 5'3" deep from front to back of the cabinet and they average somewhere between 3-4' deep and weighs approx between 150 lbs and 350 lbs. Regular acoustic grand piano cabinets range in size from 4'7" deep to well over 7' deep and weigh well over 800 lbs. So there certainly are benefits in owning a digital grand in saving space and reducing weight so the piano can be more easily moved. The digital mini baby grand piano in this picture is a Roland GP607 which comes in a 3' deep cabinet and sells at discount for about $6000 at local Roland piano stores. If you want to read my review on this model please click on the following link: Roland GP607 Review

Samick SG500

*As I mentioned earlier, I do recommend the Samick brand of digital grand pianos in the $4000-$5000 price range as a very good choice including the 4' deep full featured Samick SG500 ($5295US MSRP) and the smaller 2'6"' deep Samick SG120 "micro-grand" ($4495US MSRP). The SG120 and SG500 models have a responsive hammer weighted & graded key action made in Europe by the Fatar piano action company along with many useful digital educational & fun features all housed in an attractive authentic style grand cabinet with upgraded cabinet features and appointments. The larger SG500 has a symphonic internal sound system that reproduces the music in a big, bold way that really can fill up a large room. The smaller SG120 has a surprisingly big, full sound coming from its less powerful speaker system that can still easily fill up a small or large room, and if happen to be lacking for room, it certainly fits in better in smaller spaces. The instrumental sound design in these new Samick pianos was created by the Orla sound design company of Italy and they have done an outstanding job in my opinion of giving "life" to these instruments so that they sound very realistic as compared to all the other digital grands in their price range or even higher price ranges. Although the Samick piano company is not as well known as other companies such as Yamaha or Roland, they compete very well against the higher priced model digital grand pianos in a number of ways but at a lower price. In that more popular "under $5000US price range" they are actually very impressive and many people who have ordered them have reported to me they like these models very much. Go to the following link to learn more about the new Samick SG120 and SG500 digital grand pianos and let me know what you think: Samick SG120/SG500 Review.


Finally, the finest and most realistic baby grand digital piano on the market today is the Yamaha AvantGrand N3X. Store discount price on that model is approx $17000. That model is essentially a real Yamaha baby grand in terms of the key action being taken from a real Yamaha acoustic grand piano and then slightly modified and put into a digital piano case with digital piano sound technology.The N3X plays like the "real thing" with all those organic moving wood key action parts along with life-like newly developed acoustic piano sound technology reproducing both a 9" concert grand from Yamaha and a 9' acoustic concert grand from the prestigious Bosendorfer piano company of Vienna, Austria (which Yamaha owns). The reason someone would want a digital baby grand like this one is because they have a smaller space in their home, they need to play more quietly and the N3X volume can be controlled and/or you can use stereo headphones to play in complete privacy which is a great feature to have. Another reason to purchase a digital baby grand is that there's much less maintenance and no tuning...the piano will never go out of tune. If you are musically picky like me not wanting to play pianos that are out of tune, then you will appreciate this aspect of a digital grand piano as compared to a real acoustic piano which can go out of tune frequently. There are other features on the Yamaha N3X which are compelling such as being able to directly record music that you play as an audio wav or MP3 song file and store it and later play it back. There are many good reasons to consider this model and if you have the budget it's a worthy competitor to a real baby grand piano for all the reasons I mentioned...and more. Go to the following link to read my review of this model along with its less expensive "upright style" siblings.  Yamaha N3X digital baby grand review

If you want more info on these and other pianos and LOWER prices than internet or store discounts, please email me at tim@azpianowholesale.com or call me direct at 602-571-1864