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REVIEW-Yamaha P515 Portable Digital Piano 2019 - Impressive

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REVIEW - Yamaha P515 portable digital piano under $2000 - Recommended - Yamaha has 3 portable piano-weighted key action digital pianos with an internal speaker system on the market from $500 to $2000. The 1st and least expensive one called the P125 ($599 internet price) which is focused mainly on piano playing and is an entry level product. The next one up is called the DGX660 ($799 internet price) which is really not very portable weighing in at over 50 lbs and having a somewhat bulky cabinet. It is also an "entry level" piano in terms of key action, piano sound chip, and pedaling response but it has a ton of fun, interactive "bells & whistles" for people who like having a built-in "one man band" along with other interactive functions and features This model is really meant for the home and not for someone who mainly wants to play piano, although it is still classified as a portable piano. The latest and much more advanced portable digital piano model for Yamaha that I am reviewing here is the new P515 ($1499 internet price, stand & triple pedal optional). The P515 replaces the older P255 ($1299 internet price) which was out for quite a few years. The P515 focuses mainly on "piano playing" for beginners through advanced players and has a number of advanced upgrades in it over the previous model including all new key action, new piano sound chip, new pedaling and pedal response, new operating system, new features, and more. It even has an all new look to it with new cabinet design, new cabinet materials, and new user interface...all good improvements over the previous model and this new P515 only went up in price $200 over the P255 which is not a lot more to pay for a substantially better model. I have played this P515 for many hours and examined it closely and although there is a lot to like about it, there are also some things I was quite surprised about when it comes to the actual piano playing experience and user interface. In my opinion when I am spending $1500 for a new digital piano I have very reasonable but higher expectations. I want the piano sound to be great, the key action to be playable and expressive, the user interface to be intuitive and have the functions I need.

The new piano sound chip in the P515, which was not in previous models, offers two all new grand piano sound samples from the top Yamaha acoustic grand called CFX and also from the top European Bosendorfer grand piano called the Imperial. Yamaha included the piano sound from the Bosendorefer because not only is it a very pleasing and rich European grand piano tone, but it just so happens that Yamaha purchased the Bosendorfer piano company (originally headquartered in Vienna, Austria, Vienna) a number of years ago so that name now belongs to Yamaha and is not their competition anymore. That's the way to do it...buy up other great companies and have them for yourself. I am not sure it was a good move for Yamaha to do that or not because those Bosendorfer grand pianos costs big bucks, but it sure comes in handy to be able to get that type of piano sound on some of the Yamaha digital pianos. When it comes to the actual tone on Yamaha acoustic grand pianos, the Yamaha CFX piano tone is bright and clear and many players like that sound, especially for pop music. For me, this CFX sampled sound in the P515 is great to play...but sometimes a bit too harsh at times as compared to wanting a richer piano tone. I have played hundreds of Yamaha acoustic grand pianos and lots of pop music piano players like to play Yamaha and those pianos do have bright clear tone as I previously mentioned. You can reduce the brightness and brassiness of the CFX tone in the P515 with the editing controls so that you can get that sound to be more mellow, but it's nevertheless a brighter piano sound than most other brands. When reducing the brightness of the CFX sound those editing controls can effect the sound of other instrument tones in the piano so it just depends on what you want. But overall I like the CFX stereo piano sound. One thing is for sure, if you are playing along with other live instruments and maybe even a vocalist, the brightness of the CFX piano sound will "cut through": the rest of those instruments and singers to be more easily heard and many pro players do like that aspect of the Yamaha piano sound.

The European Bosendorfer piano sound in the P515 is a richer acoustic piano sampled sound as compared to the Yamaha CFX piano sound, based on my playing and comparing both piano sounds. The Bosendorfer sample is less brassy, less bright, and much deeper and richer in tone than the Yamaha CFX grand sound and it's good for classical music, ballads, and jazz as well as pop, country, Latin, Ragtime, and other genre's of music. What also makes this piano sound so versatile is the fact that you can also edit the sound and brighten it up in a number of ways with a variety of functions on the P515 including EQ, brightness, and sound boost controls so that it takes on the more of the CFX sound without the extra brightness that can be associated with the Yamaha CFX piano sound. However, there is one thing about the Bosendorer sound that is quite irritating to me, and that is...it doesn't sound near as good through stereo headphones. The P515 has a really great internal speaker system in it with 40 watts of power going through 4 speakers and it's the best internal stereo speaker system Yamaha has ever had in a portable digital piano under $2000. So when playing through the stereo speakers using the Bosendorfer piano sound then all is very good. But when playing through a good pair of stereo headphones, the Bosendorfer piano sound is much more plain, less resonate and it has a much reduced "stereo sound field"  whereas the Yamaha CFX piano sound is much better through headphones because it is using a better headphone sound technology which Yamaha calls "Binaural" sound. The Binaural headphone sound optimizes the CFX acoustic piano sound so that it sounds like it does through the internal stereo speaker system when you listen to it without headphones...and that's the way it should be and it sounds realistic. However, the Bosendorfer piano sound along with the 7 additional piano sound variations don't have the Binaural headphone technology and so those piano sounds are all somewhat uninspiring to me. The Bosendorfer piano sound, which is arguably the better acoustic piano sound in the P515 just did not sound very good to me as compared to the Binaural sound environment of the CFX piano sound. But when you play the Bosendorfer sound through the internal speaker system of the P515, it sounds great...full, rich, alive in full stereo. But not so through headphones...a big let-down to me since I tend to use headphones quite a bit for practicing. I am not sure why Yamaha did not include the other acoustic pianos sounds (particularly the Bosendorfer sound - my favorite) in the Binaural stereo sound environment of the P515, but they didn't.

OK, now on to the the acoustic piano sound "tonal dynamics" and expressiveness of sound along with the talking about the quality of the 256-note polyphony piano sound, the range of tonal dynamics, the organic nature of the piano sound with overtones, sympathetic vibrations, and even distribution of soft to loud without noticeable jumps in volume. I can say for sure that the P515 does a great job in piano expressiveness while offering a huge range of tonal dynamics for mellow to bright and everywhere in-between. This is not the "cheaper" tone of the previous models but a noticeable upgrade to the authenticity and natural sound when playing piano. It just sounds more alive and resonate than ever before. But it is important to remember that the overall character of the CFX piano sound is still bright, clear, and a bit brassy (sometimes) so if you like that type of piano sound then you'll really like the CFX piano sound. The Bosendorfer sound is the one I like more and I believe it is the favorite of the majority of people who have played the P515 and/or heard the two piano sound samples. The resonance and dynamic range of piano tone definitely surpasses anything Yamaha has had in the past and really gives the P515 a personality of its own. One of the reasons for that is because Yamaha has added "sound resonance modeling technology" which fills in the "cracks" of sampling technology by adding some impressive organic quality acoustic piano tonal elements to the overall sound not found with purely Yamaha sampling technology, so this technology is a big upgrade to previous models and combines sampling and physical modeling in one piano.. Of the 9 acoustic piano sounds in this model, the only other piano sound I really like besides the Yamaha CFX and Bosendorfer sounds is the "ballad" piano. The other acoustic piano sounds generally are just too bright or too thin and for me, not as useful. But for other people, depending on what playing environment you're in, you may like them. But overall, I would be primarily using the Bosendorfer piano sound and CFX piano sample and then editing them to make my own variations which for me would then turn into additional piano sounds that I would also enjoy playing.

Speaking of editing or adjusting the piano sound, Yamaha has designed a clever and quick way to do that directly from the control panel with a button called "Piano Room."When you press the Piano Room button then in the LCD display screen you will see the first setting in the Piano Room is called "Lid Position," and you'll see a virtual piano picture with an adjustable lid position and you can set that lid with the navigation buttons on the control panel to "full, half, or closed" position and when you do that then the sound goes from fuller & brighter to mellower & muted. The next Piano Room setting is called "Brightness" and this setting adjusts the over brightness or mellowness of the piano up or down from 0 - 10 so there is a wide range and it does have a noticeable impact on the overall piano sound as does the Lid Position. The next setting is called "Touch" and that function allows you to adjust the touch sensitive velocity "touch curve" with 5 different levels of key touch sensitivity from very light to very hard and that setting also has a big impact of the overall sound of the P515 and the quickness in which the piano sound comes in. However when you make an adjustment and change a level of touch, that also changes the brightness or mellowness level of the sound, but that's true on all digital pianos with this feature. The next setting in the Piano Room is "Reverb" or echo and that is an important function to add some ambiance to the overall piano sound.. There are 6 different types of reverb including Concert, Recital, Cathedral, etc and they are triggered by using the button arrows on the control panel as are all settings in the Piano Room. The next setting is called "reverb Depth" and this controls how big and long the reverb sound is going to be...how long the echo will last when you play a key when using the a piano sound. This setting is also useful and necessary to "dial in" the right amount of reverb effect for your music. Following the reverb function is "Tuning." Tuning is generally set to the normal setting A-440 and remains there and it is the default setting of the piano. However if you are playing along with another instrument that is slightly out of normal pitch or its with an instrument the plays normally in another key like a clarinet or saxophone, then the Tuning feature is useful. Next after that Tuning function is the individual organic elements that reside within the P515 which are part of the acoustic grand piano samples. They include the "VRM" which is resonance modeling, "Damper Resonance" which effects the sound when using the sustain pedal, "String Resonance" which effects the sound of the virtual strings and the natural vibrations you would get from piano strings when playing, followed by "Aliquot Resonance,""Body Resonance," and "Key Off sample."  Also in the Piano Room settings is "Half-pedal Point" which allows you to modify and control the way the sustained piano sound comes in when using the proper single pedal or adding the optional triple pedal unit to the P515. Otherwise it has no effect with the included piano pedal that comes with the P515. So when you need to make relatively quick changes to your piano sound the the "Piano Room" button is what you press to do that and then scroll down to the function you want to change/edit to customize your piano sound.

With regard to the single pedal that comes with the piano, although it's a good pedal, it does not trigger the "half-damper" pedal effect which allows for a variable amount of sustain when pressing the pedal down based on the position of the pedal. This is important if you want a more realistic piano playing experience like you would get on a real acoustic piano. You could purchase a separate single pedal by Yamaha that would trigger this important function but unfortunately Yamaha does not include that pedal with the P515. The triple pedal furniture style unit for the P515 is called the LP1 and it costs $75 to add to the P515. However, you would need to also have the furniture stand for the P515 to attach the triple pedal unit. The furniture stand (L515) will cost you $130 but it will make the P515 look more like a piano as opposed to buying a metal x-stand or z-stand and it's actually fairly attractive and stable. If you simply want a single pedal and need the half-damper sustain ability which I recommend to everyone regardless of your playing skill level, then you can purchase the Yamaha FC3A sustain pedal for approx $42. The beauty of the piano sound is not only determined by the original piano sound sample but also by the ability of the piano sound to have a long and resonant sustain/decay time which means the piano sound (the notes you play) will sustain for a long period of time when holding down the pedal just as it would in a real acoustic piano. This has been a major issue in the past for Yamaha because most all of their digital pianos had very short, unrealistic sustain/decay times that made the piano playing sound somewhat choppy and artificial. The P515 technology has taken care of these past issues and now the sustain time, sustain volume, and sustained tone are very impressive and very natural across the keyboard. Using the new piano sound chip with the 256-note polyphony power and better sound samples, the piano sound, particularly the Bosendorfer piano sound, is quite pleasing to the ear and the piano sound is much better than in the past, especially when using the sustain half-damper pedal with all those sustained piano sound nuances.

When it comes to a great piano playing experience in this price range, it is the key action that can make or break a digital piano, and the P515 is no exception. Yamaha has replaced the previous plastic piano weighted key action (called GH) that was in the former P255 with a new wooden key action in the under-$2000-price-range called NWX. The white keys are made of wood but the black keys are still all plastic. The white keys have smooth-top synthetic ivory-feel surfaces on them to enhance the tactile feel of those keys and the black keys have a smooth-top matte black finish to them which is quite nice and feels good to the fingers. The NWX key action has 3-sensors underneath each key for better key repetition response when playing faster pieces regardless of where the key is positioned during key travel. The key action is stable and quiet when the keys are moving and Yamaha has has a fairly good reputation out there for reliable key actions over the years. With this NWX key action in a portable digital piano under $2000 you would think that having all-wood white keys would be a very big thing, especially considering that no other portable digital piano under $2000 has this feature. There's also an "escapement feature" in the key action which tries to re-create the experience you might get on a grand piano when pressing the keys very lightly. You're supposed to feel a noticeable hesitation or "notch" in the movement of the key about 1/2 way to 3/4 way down in the key travel as you press the keys all the way down, but in the P515 NWX action that "notched feeling" is so light that you hardly even notice it, even when playing lightly. When you play the keys with just slightly more force you don't notice this escapement function at all. So as far as I am concerned it has very little impact one way or the other on your piano playing. The letter "X" in NWX stands for the "escapement" (aka: let-off) in the key action but again, it did not impress me based on my experience playing hundreds of real grand pianos. But there is one major caveat to this key action (both black & white keys) and one that a person might not expect, and that is the keys are unusually heavy (firm) to press down with the fingers. In other words, when you are playing your music on the P515 the keys take a lot of extra effort (force) to press down, especially as compared to a good acoustic upright or grand piano or any of the other self-contained portable digital pianos out there including Roland, Korg, Casio, Korg, and others. I am not saying that this NWX key action is unplayable because it is definitely playable. But at least for me I am not fond of the way the key action feels in the P515.

When I play music I want to be able to express myself musically without an undue amount of effort. When I want to play a light, soft passage of music I want to be able to press the key easily without too much force and yet have it come back up quickly so I can play faster and more lightly. When I strike the key harder then I want a lot of quick movement (without being too quick) and for the key action to allow me to be expressive. To that end it is well known that the "weight" of the keys in going down and coming back up is referred to as "static and/or dynamic down-weight" and "up-weight" (resistance). There is a certain amount of force needed for the key to (begin) to press down and a certain amount of force (resistance) when the key is coming back up against your fingers. This force or weight is measurable and done in grams. In fact, qualified piano technicians are able to set up an acoustic grand or upright piano action to perform at proper standards by adjusting the key weight going down and coming back up. The keys themselves have no weight or resistance in them because they are (by themselves) very light...they are just plastic or light wood material. It's the added weight inside the keys or attached to the key action that gives the keys their "weight" or firmness. Key firmness or the lack of it (the perception of weight and resistance) when it comes to "heavy or light feeling" key actions, is a pretty complex subject and it takes a good technician to "dial in" the proper key weight of each key going up & down when playing those keys. But...generally speaking, the down-weight of a key in the middle octaves should be approx 50-60 grams and the up-weight measurement when the key is coming back up should be about 25-30 grams in a good acoustic piano.

When someone is looking for a digital piano and wants a good feeling, good moving key action, the keys should not be too heavy to push down nor they take long in coming back up but should not come back up with too much force. For digital pianos, since key actions are definitely not adjustable in terms of the physical weight or movement like they are in regular acoustic pianos, whatever key action movement you get in a digital piano cannot be physically altered...it is permanent. However, you can electronically adjust the "touch sensitivity curve" of the key action which makes the sound come in more or less quickly depending on how hard or fast you play the keys. Although the electronic adjustment can help a bit in adjusting key action sound response, this does nothing to adjust the actual physical weight of the keys going down or coming up. Since digital a piano key action's physical weight cannot be changed or adjusted at all, there is a bit more tolerance in the actual weight measurements for the digital piano keys as far as I am concerned. Instead of 50-60 (60 is considered heavier in acoustic pianos) for down-weight measurement and 25-30 grams for up-weight force, I'm OK with that weight coming up further to approx 75 grams for key pressure going down and approx 40 to 45 grams going up...at least that's the maximum limit I would recommend so heavy that your hands and fingers don't start feeling fatigued and tired over a relatively short period of playing time. Playing the piano should be an enjoyable, comfortable experience and the key action is the main thing that will allow for you to have that experience...although piano tone and pedaling are also obviously important as well.

So where does the Yamaha NWX action weigh in when it comes to key movement and comfort along with expression? Although the NWX key action is certainly not the heaviest key action in the Yamaha digital piano line-up, it is still rather heavy. Not only do most people have the "perception" that the keys are extra firm when pressing them down, but the measurable weight (based on my personal experience with it) is approx 90 grams of static down-weight (aka: touch-weight) and approx 45 grams of up-weight when the measurement is taken on the white middle C key. So why is this all so important? Well...it shows that the key action static down-weight (aka: touch-weight) in the NWX is 30-40 grams heavier than the average acoustic piano key action and its still much heavier than the maximum digital piano key action measured at 75 grams that I still feel comfortable with. My point to all of this explanation is, that as good as the piano sound is in the P515 with all the piano sample upgrades including having the new Bosendorfer grand piano sound and resonating pedal sustain along with good pedaling response, the NWX key action in this particular model is noticeably heavy (especially when pressing down on the keys lightly), and for a lot of people it's much too firm...especially if your hands and/or fingers are a bit weaker. Now it is true that there are some people out there who prefer a heavier piano key action that requires a lot of finger force when the keys go down. However, that's not the way real acoustic piano key actions generally feel and the way those keys are normally weighted and balanced by a good piano technician. I frequently play real acoustic grand and upright pianos and when I go from those pianos to the NWX there is noticeable difference and my comfort level goes down when playing the P515. When I play the Roland, Kawai, or Korg digital pianos in this price range between $1500 to $2000, those key actions are definitely lighter than Yamaha with Kawai being the lightest piano weighted action of all of them and closer to that of a real piano key action with regard to key weight in this price range. You would think that the Yamaha company would make the NWX key action (key movement) much lighter than it is because they certainly make some great key actions in their acoustic grand pianos and AvantGrand series digital pianos which are noticeably much lighter in key weight than the NWX action...I have played hundreds of them so I know that by years of personal experience. Just because the NWX white keys are made of wood does not necessarily mean that the wood keys move and are weighted like real acoustic pianos, because they are not. Also the keys are not full length grand piano size keys but instead they have a key movement in terms of weight distribution from the front of each key to the back of each key more closely associated with upright pianos, which have completely different key balance than grand pianos. But the bottom line for the NWX key action is...the keys are noticeably heavy and there is nothing you can do to modify the physical weight of the keys. What you get is what you will have...permanently. Again, you may be one of those people who might prefer an extra firm key action like this one. But if you are like most people, you may likely not like it near as much because it can become fatiguing for your hands & fingers and less enjoyable to play over time...and it's not only because you may have weaker hands/fingers than others...it's because good acoustic & digital pianos are not usually weighted that way because of the way piano playing technique should be applied to your playing.

Let's move on to the other instrument sounds in the P515. There are 10 acoustic piano sounds or variations of acoustic pianos including bright piano, studio piano, rock piano, honky-tonk, and others. Unless you are playing in a rock band or you love honky-tonk music and know how to play it, ultimately in my opinion there are really 3 usable acoustic piano sounds including the CFX, Bosendorfer, and Ballad acoustic piano. All the rest of them are much brighter with a couple of them being very sharp...almost tinny. There are 7 electric piano sounds including vintage tones from the Wurlitzer electric, Rhodes, and DX7 among others. They are all pretty good and usable individually or layered with other instrument sounds.There are 6 organ tones including pop, jazz, and pipe organs and all are very good along with a couple of harpsichords, vibes, and clavichord. String and choir sounds are always popular hand Yamaha has 2 each along with 3 "pad" (synth) tones which are great for sustained fill in sounds played separately or layered with pianos...and they are impressive. There are different types of bass tones used when splitting the keyboard into separate left & part hand parts. There are also a couple of Guitar tones for steel string & nylon (classical string). Those 2 guitar sound samples are very good (you can hear picking and organic string squeaks, etc) and there are lots of ways to edit them (along with the other sounds) so that you can add special effects, adjust relative volume when layering or splitting sounds, add or subtract brightness, reverb, and change octaves, among other things. So there are a total of 40 proprietary instrument sounds along with an additional 480 XG voices which is a large library of instrumental tones that covers all the bases including horns, woodwinds, percussion such as marimba, xylophone, etc, reeds, guitars, synths, special sound effects and other tones. However, this Yamaha XG sound library is something that Yamaha has had for many years in a number of their digital pianos and it's a mixed bag of sounds with some of them being quite good, others average, and still others are poor. It just depends on what sound you need and how you'll be using it. XG sounds are particularly useful and important when playing back General MIDI song files from a USB flashdrive when needing instruments like trumpets, marimbas, flutes, special effects and other tones which I will talk about more later. But for now you just need to know that the most important sounds in the P515 are the 40 instrument sounds I previously mentioned.

As far as the the instrument sounds go, you can layer/mix any two of them together for a more exciting playing enjoyment as well as electronically split the keyboard into two separate sound parts with being able to assign one sound to the left hand and a different sound to the right hand. When playing any non-acoustic instrument sound on the P515, whether it's guitars, strings, choirs, clarinets, electric pianos, synths, or whatever it may be, those actual instruments have light playing key actions and you don't have to play hard to get expression out of those instruments. In fact, I personally play and teach guitar & organ (along with piano) and I play those instruments very well. The worst thing a guitar player can have on his guitar is a hard to play guitar action where it require pressing down the strings very hard on the fretboard to get the right notes and do it quickly and smoothly. A high (or hard) action on a guitar just gets in the way of guitar playing...at least it does for most guitar players. With the much heavier (firmer) key action of the P515 as opposed to other brands and models including some other models of Yamaha digital pianos, it is a real pain (not very enjoyable) to play all those other instrument sounds that, on their own, would normally have a light key action such as harpsichords, guitars, electric pianos, strings, synths, reeds, woodwinds, etc. So when playing any of those sounds on the P515 I found that it was not conducive to having an enjoyable playing experience. You can manage on the acoustic piano sounds because you may be able to adapt to the extra firm (hard) NWX key action for piano playing...but not so much when using the other instrument sounds...it just doesn't allow for a more delicate or subtle touch, especially when using most of those other instrument sounds...whether they are part of the 40 proprietary tones or they are part of the XG sound library. So what I am saying is...I wish Yamaha had designed the P515 NWX key action in this model to be much lighter or that they had used a different key action such as what they have in their new CP88 pro stage piano, but that model is $2499 and does not have built-in speakers.

I personally love many different styles and types of music including classical piano, orchestral, symphony, jazz, Latin, pop, rock, oldies, country, western, blues, christian, world music, and so on, and like playing all these styles on the piano. I also play guitar & organ, as well as synth so I like some of those sounds as well. When it comes to using the non-piano instrument sounds on digital pianos, it's very common to want to use those sounds either by themselves (like organ, synth, strings, pads, choirs, french horns, etc) as well as combine/layer any one of the instrument sounds with the acoustic piano sound such as Bosendorfer piano with strings, Yamaha CFX acoustic piano with choir, etc. On most digital piano brands that I have played, when you play one of those sounds like a sustaining tone (let's say either organ, or strings) as long as you continue to hold the keys down then that sustaining tone (strings, organ, etc) keeps sustaining and does not decay (fade out) like those instruments would normally do. In other words, when you play a piano sound, that piano note(s) will fade out over a relatively short amount time when holding down any key or holding down the sustain pedal...that's normal. However, when layering/mixing any two sounds together such as the popular layer of piano + strings, electric piano + pad, organ + choir, normally with the percussive sounds (piano, electric piano, vibes, harpsichord, etc) you will use the sustain pedal to sustain those tones because otherwise they just cut off if you let go of the keys. But the layered 2nd sound such as strings, organ, pads, choirs, etc will need to keep playing (being heard) while the piano percussive sounds fades out. The piano or other percussive sound needs to work like a piano and the layered tones need to work like they would in real life where the strings do not decay, the choir does not decay (fade out), the organs keep sustaining, the synths and/or pads keep sustaining, etc, even though the pianos do decay and fade out when playing. If the piano sounds never decayed when holding the sustain pedal down and they stayed on all the time, the sound would be a big mess. So...with most digital piano brands, when holding down the sustain pedal and mixing 2 great sounds together like piano + strings, the pianos will fade out as normal but the strings will keep on being heard as long as you hold down your sustain pedal. This is true if you just play one of those sounds at a time such as pipe organ or choir. As long as you hold down the sustain pedal then that organ or choir sound will continue to play on those notes, until you release the sustain pedal. It works well that way on Roland, Kawai, Casio, Korg, and other brands of digital pianos...but not on Yamaha. On the P515 all sounds, regardless of what they are, play just like the piano sounds...they fade out pretty quickly with continuing to hold down the sustain pedal. For me this is disappointing because I like to play some of those other tones whether individually or mixed/layered. When I do this on the P515 the result is very unnatural and not all all like it would be when playing those instruments. However, if you hold down the keys with your fingers and don't use the pedal then the other instrument tones (strings, choirs, synths, organs) with sustain continuously as long as you continue holding down the keys/notes. But that is not a good solution because that is not how most people would be playing and it doesn't work very well. For many people who just mainly play piano and seldom use the other tones or seldom do any layering/mixing of sounds, then this limitation will likely not affect you or be an issue at all. But for people like me who do use a lot of the other tones and also do layering of 2 sounds together at the same time such as Bosendorfer grand piano and concert strings, then this type of thing may annoy you as it does me. I don't have this issue at all with the other major brands...just Yamaha. If Yamaha at least provided the option to have the sustain pedal trigger continuous sustain for the other sustaining type sounds, then that would fix the issue. Kawai provides that option so I know it can be done, but Yamaha does not. When I am spending $1500 on a digital piano I don't want these kinds of situations and this certainly is one...at least it is for me.

To add to the negative (non-sustaining) issues regarding the non-acoustic piano instrument tones such as organs, strings, choirs, pads, etc, is the fact that the sample loops of those sounds are so short that you hear a repeat loop about once every second when holding down a note while playing any of those sounds. In other words, when those sound samples are done on those sounds, that sound sample is not called a "sample" for nothing. It is indeed just a small slice of the full original sound. In the case of the choir sound, as an example, what Yamaha does is give you approx a 1 second sound sample of choir and then they loop that sound in a continuous circle so that when you hold down a key and play that sound, you actually hear a repeating "beat" approx every 1 second so you hear a sound loop with a start and end point but continuous without stopping. When you sustain that tone for longer than 1 second you definitely hear that artificial movement and unfortunately sounds fake, ,especially the strings, choir, pads, etc. To me that is disappointing because the initial sound sample themselves of the organs, choirs, strings, pads, synths, and other continuous tones are very impressive and sound real. But once you get that sustained fast loop going and hear it, then it's a big distraction and you almost don't want to use those sounds if they need to be sustained. Since Yamaha does not have continuous "pedal" sustain for those sounds then that actually reduces the chance you'll hear those repetitious loops that occur in those sounds otherwise, and perhaps that's why Yamaha did it...so that you don't as easily hear the extremely short loops on those sustaining tones such as the choirs, strings, organs, pads, etc. It's too bad because as I mentioned, those instrument sounds are very impressive but in reality just are not very usable sustaining them which is what most people would want to do with them. Once you start hearing those repetitious looping sounds then that's what you tend to focus on and it's a big distraction, at least it is for me. Sampled loops are normally found on most digital pianos but the ones on the P515 are noticeable and annoying and for $1500 Yamaha should have done a lot better.

Speaking of irritations, I have a couple more that I was surprised to find in this new model. Most portable digital pianos, especially in this price range, have the ability to add special effects to the instrument sound so it can be more realistic and organic and enable you to add things to the sound that can make your playing experience more enjoyable. To that end Yamaha has 3 very cool effects features called reverb (common in most digital pianos), Sound Boost (instant extra clarity and sharpness), and preset and programmable EQ (the ability to enhance the overall sound with boosting or reducing certain sound frequencies. All 3 of these features do a very good job of allowing you to "tweak" the overall sound coming through the speakers or through headphones and I enjoy applying those effects. There are a variety of different reverbs (echo), a variety of Sound Boost settings, and a variety of Reverb settings. But here's the weird part...there is no quick on or off button for any of these effects. There are 3 easy to see and easy to use panel buttons to access these 3 effects systems, but the buttons don't actually turn the effect on or off. Instead, when you press the reverb button then that button brings you to a reverb menu in the LCD user display screen. In this mode you can set what type of reverb setting you want and then you have the press the "function" panel button which takes you to a different page in the display screen and then you need to scroll down to the "voice edit" page and enter that page. Then you need to scroll down to the "reverb depth" and then press the right arrow on the panel. Once you have done that then you can make adjustments to the amount of reverb depth you will get for the particular reverb setting you previously selected (such as room, plate, concert, cathedral, etc). But without proper reverb depth then none of the reverb setting will sound good. So once you go to all that trouble to set up your reverb setting, you cannot just simply turn it on or off by the press of the reverb panel button...it doesn't work that way! Really?? You have got to be kidding! What was Yamaha thinking? You actually need to go into the reverb setting in the display screen, find the on or off reverb button and then press the arrow (in the proper direction) to select on or off for reverb effects. In my opinion whoever designed this operating system as OTL that day (out to lunch)...there is just no excuse for such a poorly designed feature like that...especially one as popular as reverb effects.

The Sound Boost and EQ settings are not any better in terms of controlling them and those functions are important to the overall sound. You can access both of those features from the panel button labeled "Sound Boost/EQ." However, it's on a button that allows you to access both features rather than each feature have its own button. Not only that, like the reverb button, there is no way to turn those features on or off from the panel. When you press sound boost button then it first takes you into the LCD menu and then you have to find the Sound Boost setting you most prefer and then activate it or turn it off from within that menu by scrolling to the on/off setting and then selecting it. Yikes...why would I want to work that hard? With the EQ feature, EQ editing is very useful and can definitely help with overall sound output quality and frequency range depending on your ears and what you like to hear. You can edit EQ in a number of ways including setting up your own custom EQ by changing the "user" 3 band EQ intensity which is accessed through the LCD display screen and changing the setting using the arrow navigation on the control panel to the right of the LCD screen. But again, the panel "sound boost/EQ" button does not turn those settings on or off. Pressing that button just takes you to the menu in the display screen and then you need to get to the on/off button from there and change it with arrow buttons. It is interesting to not that there is a button next to the Sound Boost/EQ button called"dual/split." This button is dedicated to activating and changing the layer/dual combinations along with activating and changing the split sound mode. When you press the button  When the button is not lit up with a blur light then you have the single sound model When you press the button it then lights up blue and you get the layer/dual sound mode with 2 instruments of your choice mixed together and you do that sound selecting from the menu. When you press the button again you get the split mode where you can take any one sound for the left hand and any one instrument sound for the right hand and play them in the split mode. If you press that button again you get a 3rd mode called dual/split which gives you a dual/layered sound for the right hand and one separate sound for the left hand so that you are in the "split mode" but you also get 2 sounds for the right hand instead of just one. When you press the button again it goes off and you are back to the single sound mode. So there is an off position from that button which is fairly intuitive to use (it's not perfect but it's usable, unlike the other 2 buttons to the left of it where there is no on/off setting at all into you toggle into the display screen and find the on/off setting. So why did Yamaha not do that on the other 2 buttons (Sound Boost/EQ and Reverb) where you could press the button quickly to get an on/off selection and also press and hold the button for a couple seconds to go into the user menu settings to do more with the setup? That would have been an easy solution and other digital piano companies have similar operational settings in that way so it's not rocket science.  The dual/split button mode works well and does what I would expect it to do. You can even press and hold the dual/split button and touch any key at the same time and that selects where your right and left hand separate when using the split mode to get a different left and right hand sound at the same time...that's a smart way to do it.

By now you may have the opinion that I am not fond of this new piano...but that's not true. The problem for me is that I do like it...especially a few of the acoustic piano sounds, the natural resonances, the pedaling, the decay quality and time of those piano sounds, and the powerful and dynamic internal speaker system. I also like many of the other instrument sounds too as I mentioned. It's just that Yamaha, in my opinion, did not keep its eye on the ball to deliver a great new digital piano with all of the key elements working correctly and feeling right instead of delivering what I would call "a nice try" but no gold ring. This piano has so much potential because if has so many cool features including 40 built-in drum rhythm patterns that sound great with very realistic percussion along with automatic bass lines depending on what chords you are playing. It sounds like you have a small band (without any rhythm/lead guitars or keyboards) backing you up...otherwise known as backing tracks. This back up band feature is on other Yamaha digital pianos as well and on the P515 it can be useful if you want to sound like you have a drummer and bass player playing along with you. But...unfortunately, here's where Yamaha falls flat. In a real band the drummer and bass player don't keep playing the same patterns over and over...they change it up every now and then so it does not become monotonous and repetitious and drummer puts in "drum breaks & fills" to keep it interesting and tie together the song verses, chorus, bridge, etc. There are many other "backing-track" digital pianos out there including models by Yamaha and most of those models have built-in drum breaks, drum fills and alternative drum patterns within the regular pattern that can be triggered when playing by pressing a button and/or foot pedal. The bass line will even change depending on the drum fill and/or alternate drum pattern. However, on the P515, although there are 40 different drum patterns with their own bass line, there are no drum beaks, drum fills, no alternate drum patterns, and no alternate bass lines. In other words, the P515 backing tracks, as good as they sound otherwise, are not even as realistic or useful as some of Yamaha's $200 keyboards with backing tracks...and I am not exaggerating. Again, what was Yamaha thinking? It's like giving you the "sizzle" but there's no steak to go along with that. When I used a number of those backing tracks I quickly got bored with them because they just were very repetitious and there was no way to control them other than with a very basic count-in intro or quick ending...and those intros and endings are always the same. Too bad because the actual percussive drum and cymbal tones are really impressive and Yamaha could have done so much more with them...but they did not. I would give them a grade of "C' on this one. It would have been a grade of "D" but at least they have "some type" of backing track system instead of nothing...so it's definitely better than nothing and something which can be used for practicing some tunes, recording songs with rhythm backing tracks, having a little fun, and keeping the beat other than using the metronome, but not for much beyond that.

The P515 has a number of other cool features that you can control from the LCD menu using the navigation arrow buttons on the control panel and a feature I like very much are the recording and playback functions. You can record a song in the "quick-record" mode, 2-track mode or 16-track midi mode which allows you to create and record a full 16-track (16 instrument sounds) MIDI recording and save it on a USB flashdrive. You can also record a wav file audio recording which is the actual audio sounds of the P515 rather than the MIDI sounds. You can also take your MIDI recording and save it as an audio track to be used in other programs or playing back on your computer. There's lots of editing features for the recorded songs that make it easy to "tweak" your recordings so you can quantize, delete tracks, change tempo, change instrument sounds, transpose the song separately from the keyboard, loop specific parts (measures) of the song with A to B looping, and so on. So there are lots of great ways to record yourself on the P515 that can add to the enjoyment of using this piano and Yamaha has included a lot of great ways to do this. Also, the user interface to do these things is fairly easy to work with when using the LCD menus for the recording, playback, and editing of songs.

When it comes to learning a playing a variety of music on the P515, a great way to do that is to use General MIDI song files because not only are those files free or relatively inexpensive depending on the music you want, but you can transpose those songs to any key and slow down or speed up the song without degradation to the song itself. Generally speaking, audio song files cannot do that...only MIDI...especially multi-track MIDI files in being stable as compared to audio files for learning and play-along. However, for the digital piano to be able to play General MIDI multi-track, multi-instrument MIDI files, the piano needs to have the General MIDI format and instruments built into the piano. Without this format and instrument library the piano cannot play full General MIDI song files but the P515 can play full 16-track General MIDI song files because it has the XG sound library of 480 instrument sounds including horns, reeds, woodwinds, brass of all kinds, percussion, etc. The Yamaha XG sound library is full General MIDI format and therefore the P515 can play any General MIDI song file. This is actually a very cool thing in my opinion because there are thousands of MIDI song files available online (all your favorite music) and when you play them on GM capable digital pianos then you get to hear and playalong/singalong with any of those songs. In fact, most MIDI files are recorded as General MIDI song files and so they are the most popular digital (non-audio) songs of all especially because you can easily control the tempo, transposed key, and other aspects of controlling those song files depending on the digital piano functions. The GM songs will only sound as good as the quality of the GM/XG instrument sounds built into the digital piano so in the case of the P515 those sounds work well when the P515 is playing those types of files. In other words, if you play a popular jazz song, movie theme, and other type of music, even though it's not the actual song CD/MP3 file recording of it, the General MIDI multi-track version is pretty good and can sound fairly real...depending on the song and the instruments you are hearing. So if I am playing the them from Star Wars, a jazz piece from Count Basie, A Disney song from Beauty & the Beast, a rock tune from Toto, or a orchestrated classical piece such as Beethoven's 5th symphony, the XG General MIDI sound Library works good and sounds good and you can have a lot of fun playing along with the songs on the P515 to better learn how they go or even just to sing with or play along with other instruments. Personally I enjoy using MIDI song files, especially when wanting to sing along because I can easily transpose them into my vocal range or slow them down, and it's very difficult to do that with audio files in digital pianos. To use MIDI files you simply connect a USB flashdrive containing your song files to the P515 USB device slot on the front of the piano control panel. From there you you access your songs from the front control panel by pressing the song button. Once you've pressed the button then you enter into the song menu and look for USB songs and press the navigation button on the control panel. Once you see the words "MUSICDAT" then you enter that function and your list of songs in the flashdrive will appear and you can play them from there.

The Yamaha P515 has some very impressive connectivity hardware and software built in including audio wireless Bluetooth so that you can play songs from your favorite digital music library in your mobile phone or tablet directly through the P515 internal speaker system and use the piano as your stereo speaker system to hear your songs even if you are in another part of the room. Having audio Bluetooth can be useful depending on how you use it and what you want to do with it. Beyond the Bluetooth connectivity is USB direct cable connection to interface with a tablet, computer, etc, I use my iPad quite a bit in my music studio for piano educational apps for my students along with other apps and music that are interactive and allow me to interface my device so I can have the app or program react to my keyboard input. On the P515 when I do that and connect with a USB cable, not only do I get MIDI connectivity but I also get automatic audi streaming connectivity. This means that when I am connecting with my favorite controller app, music app, music library (such as iTunes), or piano educational app, if that app has music in it then I hear that music automatically coming through the P515 speaker system without the need for an audio cable connection...the audio portion of the app is transmitted through the USB cable coming back into the P515. So a regular A to B USB cable can provide 2-way MIDI/Audio communication because the P515 has audio streaming which is not the case with other brands...and that's pretty cool.

Other connectivity features include separate audio line outputs so you can connect to an external speaker system. Personally I don't believe any external speaker system is need if you are playing in a small to medium size room in the home or smaller venue. Even in a larger room the P515 is sufficient. But if you'll be playing in a very large building, church, school auditorium, etc then connecting to external speakers would be a good idea and you can do that on the P515. There are also standard MIDI in/out ports for people who have older MIDI devices like keyboards, sound modules, etc so that you can connect your older MIDI device to the P515 using the standard MIDI ports. Also, Yamaha has provided an stereo audio input so that you can connect audio devices (computers, iPods, etc) to the P515 and hear those devices through the internal speaker system of the P515. This is very useful for people who have audio devices that don't have Bluetooth audio connectivity or don't have a USB connection. There's also a single sustain pedal connection along with a proprietary connector for the option triple pedal unit that will attach to the P515 optional stand.

Beyond everything this new model can do from its control panel, Yamaha has a proprietary "controller app" for iOS devices (iPad, etc) which allows you to control most of the piano functions using the color touch screen of your external device. The name of this Yamaha app is called "Smart Pianist" and the app works for other Yamaha digital pianos as well as for the P515 and it even adds extra features to the P515 that are not already inside the piano. I like the app because overall it is a lot more intuitive to control (most of) the functions and features of the piano through your iPad color touch screen. It uses the familiar Apple iOS operating system and with all the experience I have in using an iPad in my studio with other music technology apps, I found the Smart Pianist a lot of fun to navigate and it makes the features of the piano (overall) much easier to access and understand. The first major feature in the app is the "Piano Room" setting. When you are in the Piano Room then on the first screen is a picture of a Yamaha grand piano and that's the sound you would get for the P515. You can touch the picture and swipe it and then the next picture is of the Bosendorfer grand piano and the piano will automatically activate that Bosendorfer grand piano sound, and so on. There are 2 more piano settings in the Piano Room along with ability to change the background scene which provides different Reverb effects settings such as Concert Reverb, Chamber Reverb, Cathedral Reverb, and so on. When you want to explore more sounds and effects, etc you would go into the operational function of the Smart Pianist which allows you to bring up the categories of all 40 instrument sounds including all 480 XG instrument sounds. You choose the category, select the sound from the sound list by touching the sound you want and then the instrument picture of that sound will appear on the main screen as sound #1. If you want to layer/mix another instrument sound with that one then you select a 2nd sound from the sound list and an instrument picture of that sound will appear on the main screen as sound #2. If you want a separate left-hand sound for a "split" sound function then you touch the "split title" on the main page and a picture of a bass sound sill appear and if you want to change that sound you just touch the picture and it will take you to all of the instrument sound categories where you can choose another sound by touching it and then that will be your split sound. Once you set up your sounds on the main page then you can turn them on or off whenever you want just by tapping the picture button and that sound will disappear and turn off. The way I am describing this system to you may or may not sound easy but in reality a 3 year old or 93 year old person can do this without prior experience after just a couple tries.

The "Smart Pianist" also allows you to do things the piano itself cannot do such as save your favorite instrument sounds into a "Favorites" page so that when you want to use your favorite sounds individually, in a layer, or in a split, you don't have to search for the sound category and find the sound you want. You just go to your "Favorites" page and select the sound you want from the list of Favorites you have saved...it's that easy. You can also save full registrations in a "Registration" page in the app which is very cool because the piano itself does not have this function. This allows you to save a "set-up" which includes all sounds, key change, reverb & EFX settings, and other functions so that you just go the the "Registration" page where you saved those setups and then you touch the one you want and it instantly activates that "registration memory" and you instantly have what you want without having to recreate it manually every-time you want it. Pretty much all the important functions  that I previously mentioned which are in the P515 can be controlled from your iPad with the Smart Pianist app. This includes recording functions, metronome, drum rhythms & bass lines, touch curve, transpose, piano elements, etc. There are some things the app does not control but it does a very good job overall and as I just mentioned, it does things the piano itself does not do on its own including having a live 5-part digital volume (touch) mixer.

When it comes to playing songs in the piano, you can do that by pressing the song button and all of the songs that reside in the piano song library can be accessed including all General MIDI song files on the USB flashdrive. In the Smart Pianist app you would go to the virtual "song button" in the feature portion of the app and when you touch that virtual button all of the internal songs come up that are available in the piano and you can access and play them more easily from the app. When you see the song book and song you want on the page, you just touch it and then that song is instantly accessed and will play in the piano. If it's a regular MIDI song file from the classical music books in the piano then the sheet music will also be displayed in the app on your iPad so you can see the notes and play along as well as control tempo, key, volume and parts of the song that are playing back. You can isolate the left hand from the hand part which is very cool as well. The app also allows you to load songs from your iTune library so that you can listen and play along as well as even change the key or tempo to some degree and the songs from your MP3 files will also display accompaniment chords in a chord chart and the chords will be seen in a linear fashion as the song is playing so that you know what chords are in the song by instantly seeing them in the Smart Pianist chord chart. I have tries this many times and although it works well, it doesn't always work for all songs or does not display the chords and chord changes correctly depending on the song. But overall it's a great learning and fun music tool if you have iTunes.

There is one major downside to using the Smart Pianist app which is personally annoying to me and that is when you access the app, it instantly shuts off access to the piano control panel. In other words you cannot use the piano control panel, display screen, or any features within the piano at the same time as you are using the app. The display screen reads "in-communication" with the app and then all piano controls are frozen and display screen is non functioning. Well...you might think this is  no big deal because after-all, you're using the app so why would you want or need to also access the piano functions from the piano? The reason this annoys me is because (as an example) if I have a setting on the app like using certain instrument sounds and at the same time I am playing a song on the app and playing along with the song reading the virtual sheet music in the app and I want to change my instrument sound setting to something else...the way I would need to do that is to go out of the sheet music page to get to my instrument sounds and press 8 button pushes to eventually get to my sounds to select them and then back into my sheet music...no one is going to do that...takes much too long and you lose the music. Another example is if you are playing a live piano song while using the app, if you should want to electronically transpose the song to a different key in real time you would need to make 4 button pushes on different pages to get to the transpose feature to do that key change and that interrupts the song and makes it very challenging to do. It's really much easier just to play the piano using the piano control panel and accessing the transpose function through the piano but then you would have to disconnect the iPad to do that. The better way is to be able to have access to both the Smart Pianist app and to the piano display menu and functions at the same time and then you could keep your sheet music up and running and make instrument sound changes quickly on the piano itself or you could keep your instrument sound on the app and do the transpose key change on the piano itself without having to manipulate everything (more slowly) with the app. Another down side to losing access to the piano control panel when using the app is that the app can not control or give access to General MIDI song files that are on your USB flash drive so that you cannot play or activate the flashdrive songs from the piano and there is no way to use it through the app. The app will not display the songs on the flashdrive and/or give you control over it so to do that you would need to disconnect the tablet from the piano and take out the cable. Obviously this Yamaha app is not "perfect" (what app is ever perfect?) but it's very good and quite useful in many ways. I will say that having the app and the piano control panel/display screen work simultaneously must not be "rocket science" because Casio's proprietary new controller app for iPad & Android called "Chordana Play for Piano," works simultaneously with its piano control panel on new portable pro models called PXS series, and in a lower price range. So with Casio you can control functions from the app and at the same time control all functions from the piano itself which makes the operation much more intuitive and usable...and for me, that's important. If you (Yamaha) are going to have an app to help control the digital piano, then don't shut off access to the piano functions from the piano itself...that just does not make any sense. But that's the way it is on the Yamaha so you just deal with it and enjoy as much as possible.

I wanted to specifically mention the internal speaker system in the P515. There is a total of 40 watts of power going into 4 amplifiers and 4 speakers and the way that Yamaha designed that internal system allows for a much clearer tone and more precise bass response along with plenty of power without noticeable distortion. The built-in EQ feature in the piano allows you to precisely control the lows, medium, and high frequency tones in the P515 for live play and recorded playback from song files. I can tell you that from my personal experience playing a lot of hours through the P515 internal speaker system that it is by far the best sound I have ever heard coming through a portable digital piano under $2000. The overall sound is very impressive and the bass response is tight and precise without being boomy. You almost can't believe that all that quality sound and power is coming through a portable digital piano without external speakers connected. This piano can easily fill a large room with sound all by itself. In fact, the Roland FP90 ($1899 price) portable digital piano has 60 watts of power going through 4 speakers and 4 amps, which makes it more powerful than the Yamaha P515, yet the P515 sounds much better, more natural, with less distortion at louder power in my opinion than the FP90. Just because you have more power in a speaker system does not necessarily make it a better, more natural sound because there is a lot more that goes into making a quality speaker system than just raw power. The P515 is definitely high quality, high definition tone with a tight bass response coming through its very capable internal speaker system and even MP3/iTunes song files going through that speaker system from your Bluetooth device sound equally great.

Yamaha did an outstanding job with the cabinet design and cabinet finish on the P515 in my opinion by making it look a lot more "upscale" than any previous models they have had by using nice (quality) looking materials, better construction, contemporary design elements that add a bit of elegance to it, as well as nice looking button layout and shapes, and larger/better user display screen size and style. The previous model P255 had some black plastic plex on the interior of the control panel which scratched easily and just looked bad. On this new model Yamaha got rid of all that and improved design and materials, although to give the P515 that more "elegant" appearance they redesigned the top outside cabinet panels into a more interesting geometric shape and used that black plastic plex material there to give the piano a "polished black" appearance on those sides. Although it looks impressive and I like it, that material does attract fingerprints, dust, and scratches, especially when you pick up the piano from each side because that's where the shiny black plastic is attached...to those top sides. But it's much nicer than the previous model and I am glad about that. The piano top materials and control panel materials have a matte black finish that resists fingerprints and scratches and the full length rail strip above the keys have a black walnut "wood-grain" look to it which is very attractive and adds a bit of "class" to the overall appearance of the P515. The optional stand and triple pedal unit are also nicely designed and work well if you want the P515 to be more like a piano. The dimensions of the P515 are 53" x 6" x 15" deep with the weight coming in at 48.5 lbs not including optional stand, pedals, case, etc.

In the final analysis the P515 is a winner, but with some negative caveats. I obviously like many aspects of this newer model but my main hangups with it is the key action being heavy making it more difficult to control the key volume and dynamics, especially when playing more softly (firm static down-weight) particularly for a portable product. Key action is the #1 thing that piano teachers and pro players (like me) consider to be important and everything else comes after that. But besides key action and a few quirks that the P515 has that I have previously mentioned, I believe there are a number of people who will like this model and will find it to be enjoyable to play. However, I do have a number of piano player and piano teacher friends and relatives who are excellent musicians and have had a chance to try out this P515 and most of them thought the key action was noticeably heavy compared to what they were used to playing on their pianos which include Steinway, Yamaha, and Kawai grand pianos along with a few assorted upright/console acoustic pianos. When playing lightly and wanting to press on the keys more easily is where the extra down-weight is more noticeable could become fatiguing after awhile of playing and also more difficult in general for younger children or those people with weaker hand & finger muscles. But aside from the key action issues, the rest of the piano (minus the shortcomings I have talked about) is impressive and might be the perfect digital piano choice for you. Between the price range of $1500 to $2000 the 3 main portable digital pianos in this category are the P515, the Kawai ES8, and the Roland FP90. I would recommend you read my reviews of the other 2 pianos before making a purchase decision.


If you want more info on new digital pianos and LOWER PRICES than internet discounts, please email me at tim@azpianowholesale.com or call direct at 602-571-1864.


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